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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jan 23, 2010 5:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Need a Miracle every day - non dead

Even if all this has a kernel of truth somewhere (along with a whopping dose of paranoia), are you saying it is all actually a reason to believe in God?

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jan 23, 2010 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Need a Miracle every day - non dead

"the truth, such as we know it, comes to the fore... "

Yes, it's the such-as-we-know-it part that's the concern.

And no that's not enough to believe in God, but it is an opening. It can open wider by pondering beauty and consciousness, listening to the still small voice of conscience. It can be closed by choosing the chicken or egg or some self-organizing complexity as an answer to the question of first cause.

Once in that abyss, facing death's honesty (I have a hard time leaving Dylan behind), you can still ask God, a word from a Proto-Indo-European root meaning either "to call" or "to invoke." That's very close in meaning to the Biblical Elohim and Alaha and the Quranic Allah.

I don't think mumbling the words works on scoundrels or the prideful so well, but Deadheads are generally a kindly bunch, so the call might be answered.

And sure we *should* be skeptical of the likes of those imagined in Estimated Prophet -- and ones like me who can only communicate with broken phrases. But I don't think the everyone impressed by lightning storms are crazy or talking about a man:

I'll call down thunder
And speak the same
And my word fills the sky with flame
And might and glory gonna be my name
And men gonna light my way

The storyteller makes no choice
soon you will not hear his voice
his job is to shed light
and not to master

Take what you have gathered from coincidence.

This post was modified by spacedface on 2010-01-23 16:48:02

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jan 23, 2010 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Need a Miracle every day - non dead

What? I have a hard time following you.

Those lyrics are not among my favorite Dead lyrics. I think Let it Grow is a beautiful song - musically. I always cringed a bit for Bob singing those lyrics.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jan 23, 2010 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Need a Miracle every day - non dead

Sorry I mixed Estimated Prophet with Terrapin to contrast Robert Hunter's experience in a lightning storm writing Terrapin to the supposed crazy person in EP.

You not the only woman I've know that doesn't like the lyrics to Let It Grow:
http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/grow.html

I like it, but maybe the Clapton songs are better, Let It Rain and Let It Grow.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jan 25, 2010 6:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Need a Miracle every day - non dead

I love Clapton's Let it Grow. I don't remember the words though. My objection to Gd Let It Grow is the words, not the music.